Your Rights Online: Monolith Antitrust Trial: Judge's Findings Due Soon Posted by jamie_k on Monday October 11, @01:10PM EDT from the the-browser-is-part-of-the-OS dept. CourtWatcher writes "The judge in the government's antitrust case against Monolith Software is expected to issue findings of fact within weeks. At issue is whether bundling the Navigational Explorer browser into Portals 98 was an attempt to crush Netsail. Monolith's lawyers maintain that the browser cannot be removed without breaking the operating system, and also that it can be removed easily if you really want to." Both of those statements were made under oath, by the way. On different days. Your Rights Online: Monolith Antitrust Trial: Judge's Findings Due Soon | Login/Create an Account | Top | 29 comments | Search Discussion Threshold: -1: 29 comments 0: 28 comments 1: 22 comments 2: 15 comments 3: 8 comments 4: 4 comments 5: 3 comments NestedFlatThreadedNo Comments Oldest FirstNewest FirstHighest Scores First The fine print: the following comments belong to whoever typed them. Dashdot takes no responsibility for them, and frankly, neither do most of the people who typed them. first post! by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @01:11PM EDT (#1) first post!!!1 woohoo [ Reply to This ] The video by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @01:24PM EDT (#2) The best part of the trial was the video where they demonstrated removing the browser and the desktop icons visibly changed between cuts. [ Reply to This ] Re:The video by SpudGun on Monday October 11, @01:38PM EDT (#4) (User Info) Source? My brother-in-law says otherwise, and he has a Pentode. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by GeckoGuy on Monday October 11, @03:12PM EDT (#12) (User Info) Wait until you see the next version. It's going to be worse. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by SpudGun on Monday October 11, @03:48PM EDT (#16) (User Info) Not true at all. I've been running it for months with no problems. Maybe check your hardware? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @04:06PM EDT (#18) Mod parent down! Flamebait. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by Linixdvd on Monday October 11, @01:47PM EDT (#5) (User Info) Did you even read the parent post? He said the opposite. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by NavNerd on Monday October 11, @02:38PM EDT (#9) (User Info) I think you're missing the point. Nobody is arguing it's perfect, just that it's better than what we had. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The video by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @02:04PM EDT (#6) Actually, that's a common misconception. The spec explicitly allows it; it's the vendors who didn't implement it. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Breakup? by Gnuisance on Monday October 11, @01:34PM EDT (#3) (User Info) If they find a monopoly, the real question is the remedy. A breakup into an OS company and an apps company would be the most interesting outcome. [ Reply to This ] Beowulf by Tux_Tamer on Monday October 11, @02:17PM EDT (#7) (User Info) Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these. [ Reply to This ] Re:Beowulf by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @02:53PM EDT (#11) Whoosh. That was the sound of the joke going over your head. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Information wants to be free by RetroRaccoon on Monday October 11, @02:29PM EDT (#8) (User Info) Information wants to be free. Hardware wants to be cheap. I want a nap. [ Reply to This ] Hype by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @02:52PM EDT (#10) The hype-to-substance ratio on this one is pretty high. Let's see it running in production before we all get excited. [ Reply to This ] Leave them alone by CourtWatcher on Monday October 11, @03:21PM EDT (#13) (User Info) Monolith made computers affordable for regular people. The government should stay out of the software business. [ Reply to This ] Who cares by dormroom_dj on Monday October 11, @03:35PM EDT (#14) (User Info) Why is this news for nerds? This is news for people who like being angry at things. [ Reply to This ] BSD: a eulogy by WebWeaver on Monday October 11, @03:44PM EDT (#15) (User Info) Sad news, everyone. Analysts at a firm I just made up report that BSD now runs on fewer than 4% of servers, down from 4.1% last spring. Even the daemon mascot has been seen updating his resume. Gather round, friends, and light a candle for the little OS that could, but statistically shouldn't. [ Reply to This ] Re:BSD: a eulogy by MediaMaven on Monday October 11, @04:34PM EDT (#22) (User Info) Exactly. And the vendors know it, which is why they're scared. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:BSD: a eulogy by pitchfork_pete on Monday October 11, @05:07PM EDT (#25) (User Info) Funny, I had the exact opposite experience. Ymmv, I guess. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Correction by Nervous Ned on Monday October 11, @03:51PM EDT (#17) (User Info) Small correction to the story: it's not the first time this has been done. A university group demonstrated something very similar in 1996. The difference is that this one actually ships. [ Reply to This ] Re:Correction by WebWeaver on Monday October 11, @04:17PM EDT (#21) (User Info) No, that's not how any of this works. Please read the FAQ before posting. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Correction by LawGeek on Monday October 11, @04:54PM EDT (#23) (User Info) Mod parent up! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Correction by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:25PM EDT (#26) Heh. Nice one. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Moderators on crack by CourtWatcher on Monday October 11, @04:11PM EDT (#19) (User Info) Why was my last post moderated down as Offtopic? It was totally on topic. Moderators must be on crack today. [ Reply to This ] Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @04:16PM EDT (#20) Site's already slashdotted. Er, dashdotted. Anyone have a mirror? [ Reply to This ] Hmm by jamie_k on Monday October 11, @04:55PM EDT (#24) (User Info) I wonder how long until someone ports Doom to it. [ Reply to This ] Re:Hmm by overclocked_otter on Monday October 11, @05:31PM EDT (#27) (User Info) Real men use a magnetized needle and a steady hand. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re: real world by kernel_kid on Monday October 11, @05:33PM EDT (#28) (User Info) In the real world, nobody cares about this stuff. They care whether their e-mail works. [ Reply to This ] Re: real world by LawGeek on Monday October 11, @05:49PM EDT (#29) (User Info) Citation needed. Where are you getting these numbers? [ Reply to This | Parent ]

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